29 November 2010

How united are Esperantists ?

I was with the Ci Ji (慈济)) buddhist for a morning tea. We talked about the nature disastrous and moved into the Da Ai TV 大爱电视。

This prompted me to think a question of how united the Esperantists are.

Many economists are puzzled how Ci Ji can build a university and a hospital. A religious body can have the wealth to have the satellite TV beaming across the Atlantic from Taiwan.

As the web statistics shows that there are more than two million Esperantists. Is this amount include non income group like the babies and school going children ?

Well, if I take one million Esperantists who have the income on the daily basis, there would be one million dollars if they can donate it to a fund which would look into the welfare of the Esperanto development. One million dollars a day. How much would it be a month ? You can use the fingers plus the toes to count it.

That is the problem of the Esperanto Associations. We could see many self funded Esperantists to do pod-casting and online radio. But how long can this be ? The resources are limited when we are not united.

It is a pressure for the Esperantists or perhaps a tall order. If it is, join hand with Ci Ji, I believe they are willing to help and also they can form a Ci Ji Esperanto League like other religion

http://www.newdaai.tv/mod/   Da Ai TV 大爱电视

http://www.tcu.edu.tw/ Ci Ji University

http://www.tcsh.hlc.edu.tw/   Ci Ji High School

http://www.tzuchi.com.tw/TzuChi/Default.aspx Ci Ji hospitals

http://www.tzuchi.org.tw/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=518&lang=zh Ci Ji contact link

http://www.tzuchi.org/  Main site with multilingual

28 November 2010

Esperanto Versus Economy (EVE)

Skimming through the book titled 'China and Southeast Asia—Global Changes and Regional Challenges by 13 researchers in four parts and published by Institute pf Southeast Asian Studies, Singapore.

One question that pop up in my mind is why there is no discussion in Education economy? Isn't education a part of economy ? It is ,once upon a time Education was the largest export of Australia.

Coming back to the Esperanto versus Economy (EVE). How much have Esperantists discussing this issue in the forum ? With the GRIN report and Robert Phillipson's work on the Esperanto and the economy, it is less heard about Esperanto in the improvement of economy.

There are 11 countries in ASEAN and with China, a country with large Esperanto speakers, the issue of Education is not mentioned in most forum as well as the research papers. Of course, I like to do that but again in Esperanto and how many people can read it in ASEAN, perhaps, a small number in Vietnam.

Well, Vietnam has large number of Esperanto speakers too, to date, the only country in ASEAN which has the Esperanto Association.

EVE is a part for the economy. But, who would take the lead is a question which lies in KAEM, UEA or respective countries or even the individual Esperantists.

My friends said Esperantists are idealists. I think, not all though but have to admit it especially those holding posts in the UEA and KAEM.

27 November 2010

Esperanto helps the autistic kids

My mind still wonders in the Learning Disabilties, a book I read last night.

Can Esperanto help the kids in this area ? How much research have done in this area ?

Why the government of America is not helping the esperantists to continue the research ?

Well, politics, isn't it ?

Parents can forward to help themselves and their kids. Can't they ?

Many question pop up and I recalled a report and here to share with all of you.

It looks like no one knows that we actually did have several Chicago Public Schools teaching Esperanto to 5th graders and to a number of autistic students.
For the autistic kids, Esperanto introduced order into their language with simplification of grammar that confounds people trying to learn English. Those kids were better able to learn English (and communicate with their family and friends) after first getting a grasp on basic communication.
For the other kids, Esperanto introduced language without the burden of grammatical speed-bumps that interfere with learning national languages. In other words, they had immediate success and were therefore not put off from language the way kids get when starting with English to learn French, Italian, Spanish, or Latin.
There were kids in other parts of the USA learning Esperanto too, thanks in large part to the efforts of R Kent Jones, who is no longer with us, and many others. Kent would teach the teachers by phone and mail so that they could keep up with the kids who were eagerly racing forward.  :)
This was an experiment that worked, with no budget, no new teachers. The problem was that it relied entirely on volunteers, grassroots efforts, and evening/weekend time to teach the teachers just a few chapters beyond where they were teaching their students. An official program would help to establish the program into something more self-sustaining.
I taught myself Esperanto when I was in high-school, around 1980. This helped me with further studies of Italian, French, Spanish, Polish, Japanese, and other languages. I don't claim fluency in these, but at an early age I came to understand the structure of language and that helped me to understand any language I later studied. It also allowed me to become more of a world citizen, understanding people in other countries through direct communication.  That is one of the greatest benefits that all Americans can derive by learning this language.
Tony Gravagno
Former President, Esperanto Society of Chicago

25 November 2010

Sounds of animals in Esperanto

Having hard time to write a short fairy tale. Just wondering how to make the animal talk.

Through the help from friends, got this to say:

ŭa = krio de bebo, bojo de hundo
huŝ, tju = fortimigo de bestoj
gik gak = bleko de anaso
hu = bleko de strigo
kluk kluk = bleko de kokino
kŭaks, brekekekeks = bleko de bufo
kva, kvak = bleko de rano
kvivit = birda pepado

Well, I wish it has less than English thus to reduce the pain for the learners.

18.2. Ordinaraj radikoj kiel ekkriaj vortetoj


http://bertilow.com/pmeg/gramatiko/ekkrioj_sonimitoj/neoficialaj_ekkrioj.html  inoffical interjection

Hope to have a complete list.

21 November 2010

If Dr Zamenholf were to be borne in China, Esperanto would be a different today

It was unfortunate for Dr L L Zamenholf to be borne in Poland.

If he were borne in China, it would be not the same scenario now for the International Language—ESPERANTO.

If Esperanto cannot be the main second language in the world, but at least, it would be for the Asian countries.

Now, look the the promotion and the like of the Espreanto in Poland, the birth place of Esperanto and China, a far away place of transplanting the International Language—ESPERANTO

As early as 1963, China Education Department had recognised Esperanto as a foreign language in the school system. But for the Poland government is not making effort to list Esperanto as a second language in the country.

Again in 1985, China Education stressed again the important of Esperanto and urged more schools and universities to conduct Esperanto courses.

With Esperanto radio broadcasting for 40 years and an hour a day for 7-day a week.

Which country in the world has that strong support evidence?

If you have the evidence, please leave a message. Thanks

17 November 2010

My ideal Esperanto Association setting

Many people complained that they cannot find other people to communicate after learning Esperanto.

Certainly, I agreed with those complaints and sighs. I am also facing such problems. Most Esperantists conduct the activities mainly as language and neither they know that TESL group even have the Special Interest Group (SIG) in pros, short story,poetry etc. Just language only we can have so much fun in it. Of course, songs are a part of teaching and there are also singing and song groups to exchange and fine more of the songs for the classes.

I have not visited any Esperanto Association. However, from the website of their activities, I could see that most of the time they do not have permanent sections as well as no youth section. The Youth Esperanto is another separate registered body.

If one day Malaysia has the opportunity to form the Esperanto Association, I would like to see it is functioning in such manner:

Main body

youth section      education section       senior citizen section    children section

Special Interest Group (SIG)

chorus,    fishing,    photography,    scouting,     badminton,    swimming    etc

14 November 2010

Internet age, who needed Esperanto the most ?

Frustrating for sometime now. It is the learning materials of Esperanto. This lead me to think of the question, is learning Esperanto for the middle class and above ?

The internet age brought Esperanto to life again but it is still not the best choice to promote Esperanto via the technology.

I could sense it as my Indonesian friends said that they are unable to learn Esperanto now.

This might be puzzled many friends in the west or those in the developing countries. Yes, it is nothing surprised that those underprivileged and in the underdeveloped world are still unable to learn this beautiful language—ESPERANTO.

There are more than 15,000 islands in Indonesia and those with inhabitants are more than 6,000. Of course, many of them are using mobile tools, like the mobile phones and laptops. However, those who are using the mobile phone to go online are unable to access to the learning of Esperanto due to many constraints. I am facing this problem at the moment. I could sense it strongly that paper and books are still the best tool to promote Esperanto.

Esperanto should be for the poorest who could not afford to spend years in schools and are wanting to contact the outside world of their community. But, they are unable to subscribe to the internet and maybe there is no such facilities in the living area.

Those who know Malaysia should be nothing surprise the internet connection is very costly. For example, I am subscribing to the 1.5GB volume per month and with discounted rate is RM 48 per month. How many pages that 1.5GB could the learners surf for Esperanto exercises and the youtube short films to watch ?

Besides, many western countries and UEA too are using the E-books and PDF format. All these items need modern tools like the E-reader and computer etc. If the local people can't even pay for the RM2 per hour of internet surfing, do you think they are able to purchase a reader which would cost 1,500 ringgit ?

Books can be preserved for decades but gadgets would be out of date or out of order and again be the rubbish for the earth. In fact, who clear the jungles ? It is not the books but the building sectors, the furniture sectors. Why punishing the poor and the underprivileged ?

Malaysia is not as poor as African countries but there are still many places in Malaysia without water and electricity supply and it is also the similar scene in ASEAN countries.

Esperanto books that published in the Europe are selling at Euro currency. It may be cheap for a book which cost 7 Euro in the European countries but it is costly in Malaysia due to the exchange rate.

If the Esperantists and UEA like to assist in promoting the language in ASEAN, they have to consider to move the printing to Vietnam, Laos, Thailand or Indonesia as these countries have a cheaper labour cost.

It is a reminding that if the learning process is hindered and repeatedly hindered, the excitement of learning will be lost.

The UEA needs to be more careful about the statistics

A Japanese Esperantist was not believing me that there is no other Esperantist in Malaysia. I told him that there are, but I did not know where they are. He showed me this list:

Gazetaraj Komunikoj

N-ro 401 (2010-11-08)


Universala Esperanto-Asocio malfermis propran paĝon en la socia retejo Facebook la 8-an de novembro 2009. Je sia unua datreveno ĝi havis 1738 amikojn, kies laŭlanda distribuo estas sufiĉe alia ol tiu de la individuaj membroj de UEA. La unuan lokon okupas, kun distanco, la hejmlando de Facebook, Usono, kiu inter la individuaj membroj havas la kvinan pozicion. La plej granda lando inter la individuaj membroj estas Francio, kiu en la Facebook-paĝo estas tria. Rimarkindaj kazoj estas Meksiko, kiu en la IM-statistiko estas 31-a kaj en Facebook 8-a, kaj ankaŭ Argentino (respektive 39-a kaj 9-a) kaj Ĉilio (57-a kaj 11-a). Pleje tamen elstaras Malajzio, kie UEA havas nur unu membron sed 50 amikojn de sia Facebook-paĝo.

La 20 landoj kun plej multe da amikoj estas Usono (203), Brazilo (115), Francio (103), Italio (91), Hispanio kaj Pollando (po 85), Germanio (72), Meksiko (56), Argentino kaj Malajzio (po 50), Ĉilio (45), Britio (41), Rusio (40), Hungario (38), Kanado (36), Nederlando (33), Finnlando (28), Ĉeĥio kaj Svedio (po 27) kaj Belgio (26).

Facebook prezentas ankaŭ statistikon laŭ urboj, kvankam ne ĉiuj indikas sian loĝlokon. La unua estas Madrido, kie loĝas 53 amikoj. En la pinta deko troviĝas ankaŭ San-Paŭlo (50), Kuala-Lumpuro (48), Santiago de Ĉilio (42), Meksikurbo (39), Varsovio (36), Bonaero (34), Romo (33), Parizo (28) kaj Budapeŝto (23).

70% de la amikoj estas viroj kaj 28% inoj (2% ne indikas sekson). El la individuaj membroj de UEA, kies sekso estas konata, 65% estas viroj kaj 31% inoj. Ne surprizas, ke la amikoj de UEA en Facebook estas mezume pli junaj ol la individuaj membroj: 19,3% aĝas 13-24 jarojn kaj 22,4% aĝas 25-34 jarojn. Ĉar 17,6% estas 35-44-jaraj, entute 59,5% estas maksimume 44-jaraj. Krome 18% estas en la grupo de 45-54-jaraj kaj 19,5% en tiu de minimume 55-jaraj. Ne konata estas la aĝo de 3,2%

I was shocked that the UEA could be so naively taking the statistics from the facebook without thinking further with its validity and presenting it to the world with the false information.

The social networking is just any people in the world can search and add what s/he thinks is good for her/him. Besides, the facebook come with the 'invite your friend' to join the group or page button.

As on the road of promoting Esperanto in Malaysia, to let Malaysians know that Esperanto speakers are all over the world, I diligently click the 'invite your friend 'button and some of them just click join without thinking further. Of course, many are very annoyed of this act and they left my friend list.

Another example is the Malaysia Esperanto Club in facebook, there are more than 400 members and this could not be interpreted there are such a number of members of Esperanto speakers in Malaysia. There are friends from all parts of the world joining the Malaysia Esperanto Club on facebook. I do join the Nepal, Indonesia etc groups too.

It is time that UEA needs to update the statistic interpretation instead naively copy and paste on the main site and provide the wrong information for the Esperanto world

I appreciated very much the hard work that UEA staff was counting the numbers of persons from the facebook. The problem in the facebook circles is the Esperantists do not help to click the 'invite your friend' to join other esperanto group or page for support and further communication.

10 November 2010

English, where it would go ?

Is English the language of the world or simply a tool to spread Western imperialism?

Take a look.


Is English the language of the world or simply a tool to spread Western imperialism?

Some people are using the term "Globish" to describe the continuing evolution of a global pidgin English.

Due to the economic, cultural and military dominance of Britain and the US, English has become the global language for international business and diplomacy.

07 November 2010

Who is the wiser leader ?

The earlier post of my communication between the Baha'i Faith as a language for should, must learn.

The reply from the Baha'i Faith in USA:

Thank you for contacting the Office of Communications with your additional question about the Bahá’í relationship to Esperanto. The passage you quoted below is from the book, Divine Philosophy, which is a very old source and is not reliable regarding either authentication or translation of the quotes in it. We recommend that you contact the Universal House of Justice for authentication of the passage by writing to: secretariat@bwc.org.

Well, as I said earlier, I would not pursue further for whether the Baha'i followers are exhorted to learn Esperanto or it is up to the individuals to select it.

However, the free book of 'Making World Peace Real. The Baha'i Faith and Esperanto' by
Paul Desailly and his editor-publisher, Howard Perkins, has this part of document in page 44:

A letter dated 8 June 1980 from the Universal House of Justice to an individual believer points towards more consultation between the Bahá’ís and government authorities to effect the choice of an auxiliary international language.

"You are quite correct in stating that there are two different provisions in the Sacred Texts for the selection of an International Auxiliary Language. On the one hand, this task is given to the governments of the world, on the other it is given to the House of Justice. It is not possible now to see how this will come about, but it would seem reasonable to assume that, long before the Bahá’í community is large enough or can exercise the authority to produce such a world-embracing change, events will compel the governments, either progressively or all in concert, to select an International Auxiliary Language to be taught as a second language in all schools and to be used in all international commerce. At a much later stage, possibly at the time of the Bahá’í World Commonwealth, the Universal House of Justice may well decide to review the situation and either confirm the decision that the governments had made, or change the choice to a more suitable language.

"Of course, conditions may produce a development very different from the one just outlined. One of the characteristics of Bahá’í administration is its flexibility which enables it to deal with unforeseen developments and continually changing conditions. The one certain thing about the choice of an International Auxiliary Language is that the Universal House of Justice does not judge the present time propitious for it to take any action in this regard."
Now, the question here is who would give up the privileges of being a national language to adopt Esperanto.

I still respect Oomoto religion here more than Baha'i with no biase as I deem waiting for the governments is rather tiresome or it should be on the proactive instead of passive.

There will be no language in the world which can be accomodated all languages in the world. Just for example, there are 214 tribes in Malaysia, would all the languages and dialects be included, the NEW WORLD language would be the hardest language to learn. Even harder than Volapuk.

The Esperanto community has lost out 1% of 27 million population in Malaysia of Bahai'i followers now. What is the worst is losing out the messengers of peace for the world.

Who is the wise leader ?

True Esperantists or Imperalist esperantists?

Some time ago, i read about a post of famous author in the UK expressing that it is time to learn Esperanto to avoid the children from the West to learn Chinese language. I related it to a veteran Esperantist in China. He laughed it off by saying there were many people would have the fear elements and trying to avoid Chinese language though I was still unhappy.

Now this is another topic: Why Esperanto in China.


During his last talk, Glossop said, “Now some would say that English is the world language even though only 5 percent of the world speaks English as their first language. Two and a half times as many speak Mandarin Chinese as their first language. Are you and your children ready to learn Chinese?”

I hope Glossop would be like the Chinese Esperantist to think of Esperanto for better of communication for the world but not the imperalist thinking.

Till, now, I do not see the sign that China is flexing her muscles to use the langauge like the English, Spanish, Portugal to dominate the world.

If the esperantists who encourage others to learn Esperanto is by avoiding the Chinese language learning or the expansion of China, these Esperantists are not fit to be in the Esperanto community as their concepet for world peace is totally wrong.